Vince Gironda: Why He Isn't Accepted
(Originally written in 1981)
By Ron Kosloff N/C of NSP Research NutritionSeveral
people have asked me why I have written articles concerning Vince Gironda. Some have
inferred an interest conflict, as he handles Natural Source in his gym and I distribute
his courses in the East. Well, he handled the products long before I became a distributor!
He owes me nothing and vice versa! I only see him once a year when Im in L.A., and
then just to say hello and have lunch. I do speak to him periodically when I order his
courses. I will never forget that he helped me to make progress after I wasted two years
on fruitless training methods. I, as Vince, am a very analytical person, and I did as much
research on him and his methods as was possible. He has given so much to bodybuilding but
has been virtually ignored. We all search for honesty in life and Vince is one of the most
honest people I have ever met! This I immensely respect. It will take many words and
examples, but I hope I can communicate with you and comprehensively explain the title, so
please bear with me.
I felt the need to write my second article about Vince
because I feel that all bodybuilders might listen and benefit from his teachings, and that
his many critics would be understanding. Then, I hope both groups would have an open mind.
Remember, 35 years of bodybuilding research is at your disposal, if you desire it!
It is still a fact that bodybuilders, gym owners, and
so-called authorities either scoff at or just ignore Vinces methods, and for very
definite reasons. It is paradoxical, for I have personally discovered that his harshest
critics have read or understand little or none of his philosophies, and have never given
them an honest evaluation. I have observed that when someone has unorthodox views, he
seemingly is always defending his views while being criticized for them. I can refer to
Vince and myself, for he created his ideas and theories and I embrace them. Just being a
proponent and exponent of his teachings has left me open to ridicule, arguments, and some
friendly kidding. Inevitably, Im asked why I am not Mr. America if his methods are
superior. Well, I always answer that I am no Mr. America in any sense of the word
not even close! I work out to maintain a decent physique, my health, and I am aware of my
genetic limits. But, I inject, that what I have attained would never have been possible if
I hadnt met Vince Gironda period! Where Vince is concerned, it is very true
that he never capped a major title. Concepts of the ultimate physique have repeatedly
changed over the years and men that won contests did so with the physique that was
"in style" at that period. When Vince competed, either you looked like John
Grimek (bulky and smooth) or you lost simple as that! Ironically, Vince always
placed second or third and was branded "too defined," whatever that meant. If I
have encountered these critics, then I have wondered about Vince himself, and the
criticism he has taken for his unorthodox thinking. Of course, this reminds me of the fact
that anyone who thinks differently than the so-called establishment is always ridiculed.
You can categorize people as being a conformist or a non-conformist, a leader or a
follower, and secure or insecure. Vince is fortunate that he is a non-conformist, a
leader, and very secure. Coupled with the fact that he has an outstanding I.Q., it created
the combination that has contributed immensely to the science of bodybuilding.
The gifts that humans possess that are unique among animals
are the ability to reason and think. These abilities create many things, both good and
bad, and unfortunately most of us dont utilize these abilities enough. The people
that do give us knowledge in the arts, sciences, engineering, medicine and bodybuilding.
Here is a tangible point in that most of us just dont realize what a scientific
endeavor bodybuilding really is. A tremendous amount of mental and physical preparation
must be anticipated, plus the nutritional and theoretical principles must be valid.
Extensive planning is essential! A good number of us are not aware that bodybuilding was
born of weightlifting a son, so to speak. But these two endeavors are as different
as languages. Where the weightlifter is huge and powerful, the bodybuilder is symmetrical
and defined. The dawn of the modern physique appeared first around the late 1940s with the
concept of a small waist, symmetry, non-drug size, and definition. It was Vince Girondia
who applied the overload system, isolation, intensity, double breathing, palm grip, muscle
confusion, kinesiology, sissy squats, no abdominal work, creating an illusion, creative
posing, the neck press, and, finally, nutrition. The divorce had been made, and the
bodybuilder had his own identity. Unfortunately, old ways die slowly and most trainers
still utilize the non-productive methods.
When I think of all the excellent body builders that could
profit immensely from Vinces principles, Mike Mentzer comes to mind. Now please, I
know that Mike is a certified winner and a gentleman. I've met him twice at different
shows and liked him very much, but anyone can make improvements. I am certain that if
Vince were speaking to Mike personally, he would give him this constructive advice:
- Mike, you have a very large and overly developed gluteus
maximus minimus and hips (rear end) from doing excessive weightlifting squats.
- You have done excessive stomach work (sit-ups and leg
raises) and it has increased the size of your waist. Relaxed and in repose it looks rather
heavy, and an increase in waist width decreases optical shoulder width.
- As you were born with very narrow shoulders (as was Larry
Scott), you should de-emphasize working your trapezius muscles, for as they become larger,
again, you lose optical shoulder width. You should concentrate on deltoid mass and create
the illusion of width that you need (as Larry Scott did).
His suggestions prove the genetic obvious
that each and every one of us have natural flaws in our physiques and therefore we must
accentuate the positives and hide the negatives. Vince called this creating an illusion.
This is exactly what makes Vince so outstanding, as he has thought of almost everything.
He has never said that he was 100% correct in all aspects, and this is obvious in his new
and revised courses. Even today, I think he is working with amino acids, for he, years
ago, predicted they would someday replace protein for bodybuilders.
What bothers me most is that there are so
many bodybuilders and trainers who utilize his methods, yet they give you the impression
that it was their idea. Being an avid reader of most physique publications for the past
few years, I have noticed several articles concerning different aspects of training.
Enable me to describe some of them that I have read. One article dealt with the fact that
bodybuilding was certainly more than 80% nutrition and gave some very familiar-sounding
nutritional tips. Another said use muscle confusion for maximum gains; another spoke of
intensity and the most amount of work in the least amount of time; one stated that
isolation movements were supreme for best shape; then another suggested to eliminate
stomach work when youre on a gaining routine, and, last but not least, some author
said that you should use a carbohydrate overload every fourth day for maximum definition.
This is all well and good because facts were spoken, but not one author gave credit to
Vince, as he has been advocating these methods since 1950. Why shouldnt he, for he
invented them? The only authors that give credit to Vince are Don Ross and Tim Brolus.
A few years ago, I took my products and
courses to a contest that featured a famous guest-poser. At intermission, he was signing
autographs and answering questions. We were sitting next to each other, and a young fellow
asked him what the best method of training was. He replied, "To work out fast, short
and intense." Another fellow asked if that wasnt what Vince Gironda advocated.
He replied that he wasnt familiar with Vinces methods and then proceeded to
change the subject. I couldnt believe what he had said, for earlier he was thumbing
through Vinces courses.
Ask yourself how you would feel if you
discovered, researched, or invented something and you received absolutely no credit
whatsoever. Im certain that it would be very discouraging and frustrating. Of
course, the fact is that egos and jealousy run rampant among bodybuilders, but Im
certain that you are well aware of this! Of course, this situation exists in life among
countries, corporations, schools and churches, as well as both sexes. Think for a minute
about yourself personally and someone at your company, at school, next door, and even in
the gym, who is very popular, very good looking, exceptionally well-built, dated the
best-looking girls, and to top it all off, was extremely intelligent. At some time or
another you had envious feelings and were probably just a little jealous. It happens to
all of us and, really, its just human nature!
This is one of the very problems that Vince
has faced for years. We all have our peer groups, and Vinces was the one that
emerged in the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s with different approaches to physique training.
There was Bob Hoffman, Jack LaLanne, Joe Weider, Dan Laurie, John Grimek, and lesser-known
names. Each and everyone thought his methods were authoritative. But the fact is that
Vince surpassed them all in training innovations, techniques, theory, and nutrition. Even
today, most of them still dont know what he is talking about! As I have always said,
the only crime Vince Gironda ever committed is being 1000 years ahead of his time, being
simply too smart and knowing too much. Another disadvantage Vince encounters is that he
owns a very small gym and sells his courses and memberships. Now it should be quite
obvious to everyone that the U.S.As economy is built upon consumer purchasing,
coupled with tremendous advertising to sell products. Some say this promotion is based
upon a form of subtle brainwashing with every conceivable psychological trick used to
sell, including the old standby, sex! Just ask any kid what he wants for a treat, and with
no hesitation hell say a candy bar or a McDonalds, not vitamins or
milk-and-egg protein! When Madison Avenue says we should use coffee, smoke cigarettes,
consume Coca-Cola, or drink beer, we usually do. It is a mind-conditioning process. They
routinely play with us and do our thinking for us as in Howdy Doody!
Bodybuilding philosophy and thinking is,
today, dominated by very slick publications whose sales of equipment, vitamins, and
courses is in the millions, and their advertising budget is also! Some of these magazines
have some control of physique contests and committees by sponsorship alone. The
publications recruit and contract top bodybuilders to endorse their products and
philosophies. An old proverb states, "Whose bread you eat is whose song you
sing!" Get the point? Many of the top stars have either trained at Vinces or
practiced his methods, but youll never know this, for there is a definite conflict
of interests involved. Vince Gironda has never paid any physique man a cent and has never
had one under contract! It is obvious that these publications feel toward Vince as the
medical profession feels about vitamins and minerals an economic threat!
Now enter the impressionable mind of a
young trainee who sees these physique stars in full-color ads implying that if you use
this product or that course, youll look like him, in a very short time. Usually his
idol is next to, or holding a half-nude young lady, to seal a lasting impression, and if
hell bomb, blast, bang, and blitz his brains out, hell be a bona fide winner!
His idol also belongs to the magazines research clinic, so its got to be
valid, and, after all, his idol wouldnt lie to him, would he? By the way, I have
searched, and I have never been able to locate this research clinic because it just plain never
existed.
So now what we have is a little guy like
Vince competing against a million-dollar magazine promotion of bodybuilder philosophy.
Guess who will win? No contest, to be sure.
So now the young trainee enters the gym and
is ready to proceed with the task of becoming a champion. A trait of human beings is that
we always seem to conform to the environment that were exposed to, and this holds
very true in the gym where we train. In America were always taught that the harder
you work, the greater your rewards, but this theory has no relation to increasing muscle
size and definition. In the many number of gyms that I have been to, I have only seen a
handful of people working out correctly. One reason is that most people conform to the
standard way of training or as all the other fellows in gym train. This is comprised of 20
to 30 sets of 5 to 8 exercises per bodypart, plenty of squats, enormous poundages,
cheating, lengthy workouts, many sit-ups and leg raises, excessive chatter and talking,
very little concentration because of the loud rock music, and very limited knowledge of
nutrition. Most trainees have little or no concept of how to train correctly, so therefore
the result is failure! I know exactly what it is, for I have experienced it all!
So, Im encouraging the bodybuilder to
think, reason, and explore all the methods, but at least give Vince a real chance to help
you!
The inevitable question that I am asked is,
"What is Vince like personally? I will give you a short summary, because I have only
observed him in the gym. To begin with, and Ive said this often, he is extremely
outspoken painfully so! He certainly wouldnt be ordained a Lutheran minister,
and Im positive that no public relations firm would hire him. His sardonic manner
would give Don Rickles an inferiority complex. He is definitely not concerned whether you
like him or not, because he is the best at what he does, and he knows it! I heard him once
say that unfortunately he was stuck with his personality. At times he can be so very nice
that you would like to hug him, and at other times youd like to choke him. His sense
of humor in monumental, and an infinite stream of jokes are cracked during the day.
Ive taken workouts when he wasnt present and the atmosphere was definitely
lacking. He is an extremely interesting person and absolutely has charisma. Vinces
pride is still very much in tact, for he keeps in constant shape, even to this day.
Comparing physiques, youll find no one his age that can even come close. Today we
have a Mr. Over 40 contest with so many outstanding men, but I wish they would stage a Mr.
Over 60. It would be dull, of course, because Vince would be the only contestant and
winner. The old guard that I spoke of earlier wouldnt dare compete.
One feeling that I have always had is that
he is extremely sensitive and hurt because he has not been recognized and respected for
his contributions! Ill take the optimistic view that there is still time remaining.
Let us all look to the future and explore
the very legitimate possibility that in the next century the science of bodybuilding and
nutrition will be taught in our schools and colleges as courses. Required nutritional
reading will be by Vince Gironda, Rheo Blair, Dr. Kurt Donsbach, Dr. Carlton Fredericks,
and Adell Davis. Workout philosophy will be, I feel, by Vince Gironda. So hold on to all
of Girondas courses, for some day they will be valuable. Of course, at this time
there is no established school or college that teaches bodybuilding, so we are all on our
own to educate ourselves. Until then, maybe I can recommend a place that I refer to as
G.U. (Gironda University). If youre ever in North Hollywood, drive west on Venture
Boulevard past Universal Studios until you come to 11262. There youll find what
youre searching for knowledge!
Again, looking to the future, we might also
see a bodybuilders "Hall of Fame." Many of the champions weve known,
Grimek, Reeves, Scott, Arnold, and Zane, will be featured, and I feel that the master of
the teachers will finally be given his due Vince Gironda.
So, as I have steadfastly implied for 16
years, whether you choose to accept it or not, that there is only one authority in
bodybuilding today, and he is Vince Gironda. I just hope bodybuilders will see through all
the B.S. of commercial publications where big dollars distort the facts and give Vince a
chance, for he deserves the respect for his honesty, truthfulness and dedication to our
sport!
Ron Kosloff
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